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	<title>Comments on: Much Ado About Stein</title>
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		<title>By: casey</title>
		<link>http://corcoranbrothers.com/2006/01/26/much-ado-about-stein/#comment-5491</link>
		<dc:creator>casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 04:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I just rolled my eyes so hard I sprained my ankle.</description>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://corcoranbrothers.com/2006/01/26/much-ado-about-stein/#comment-5490</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 03:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=9336" rel="nofollow"&gt;Ben Stein: Saints in Armor&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=9336" rel="nofollow">Ben Stein: Saints in Armor</a></p>
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		<title>By: casey</title>
		<link>http://corcoranbrothers.com/2006/01/26/much-ado-about-stein/#comment-5488</link>
		<dc:creator>casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm generally of the opinion of "fuck the soldiers," but I can acknowledge that in a lot of areas there is an economic draft of sorts. I don't support the troops, but I'm not one of the anarchists who feels entirely comfortable with celebrating their deaths, either.

My daddy was in the navy. He volunteered. The recruiters in southern WV told him that if he didn't enlist voluntarily he'd be drafted into the army and go on the front line with all the other hillbillies. 

So I guess what I mean to say is that, like most issues, it's nuanced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m generally of the opinion of &#8220;fuck the soldiers,&#8221; but I can acknowledge that in a lot of areas there is an economic draft of sorts. I don&#8217;t support the troops, but I&#8217;m not one of the anarchists who feels entirely comfortable with celebrating their deaths, either.</p>
<p>My daddy was in the navy. He volunteered. The recruiters in southern WV told him that if he didn&#8217;t enlist voluntarily he&#8217;d be drafted into the army and go on the front line with all the other hillbillies. </p>
<p>So I guess what I mean to say is that, like most issues, it&#8217;s nuanced.</p>
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		<title>By: kinyahbrutha</title>
		<link>http://corcoranbrothers.com/2006/01/26/much-ado-about-stein/#comment-5487</link>
		<dc:creator>kinyahbrutha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that has a certain appeal for some ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that has a certain appeal for some <img src='http://corcoranbrothers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://corcoranbrothers.com/2006/01/26/much-ado-about-stein/#comment-5486</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't you end up in military prison if you do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you end up in military prison if you do that?</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://corcoranbrothers.com/2006/01/26/much-ado-about-stein/#comment-5485</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn't trying to argue the correctness of the war either. I find it difficult too to divorce the soldiers who comprise the army from the cause the army is fighting for. As you said they all volunteered. In my opinion they voted with the ultimate vote, their feet, to support it. If they had serious moral compunctions about what they were being asked to do they could just leave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t trying to argue the correctness of the war either. I find it difficult too to divorce the soldiers who comprise the army from the cause the army is fighting for. As you said they all volunteered. In my opinion they voted with the ultimate vote, their feet, to support it. If they had serious moral compunctions about what they were being asked to do they could just leave.</p>
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		<title>By: da kine</title>
		<link>http://corcoranbrothers.com/2006/01/26/much-ado-about-stein/#comment-5484</link>
		<dc:creator>da kine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but I said in the first paragraph that this was only worth reading if'n one already knew the deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but I said in the first paragraph that this was only worth reading if&#8217;n one already knew the deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://corcoranbrothers.com/2006/01/26/much-ado-about-stein/#comment-5483</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 07:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nor did you link to Joel Stein's article, so the discussion was more or less removed from that by default.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nor did you link to Joel Stein&#8217;s article, so the discussion was more or less removed from that by default.</p>
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		<title>By: Da Kine</title>
		<link>http://corcoranbrothers.com/2006/01/26/much-ado-about-stein/#comment-5482</link>
		<dc:creator>Da Kine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 01:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are correct.  That is what democracy is.  I don't think I ever said anything indicating otherwise.  My post wasn't to argue about the correctness of the war, but to defend Stein against the vicious attacks of people whose opinion he has validated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct.  That is what democracy is.  I don&#8217;t think I ever said anything indicating otherwise.  My post wasn&#8217;t to argue about the correctness of the war, but to defend Stein against the vicious attacks of people whose opinion he has validated.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://corcoranbrothers.com/2006/01/26/much-ado-about-stein/#comment-5481</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 23:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seriously, kine, is my take on democracy correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seriously, kine, is my take on democracy correct?</p>
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		<title>By: Da Kine</title>
		<link>http://corcoranbrothers.com/2006/01/26/much-ado-about-stein/#comment-5480</link>
		<dc:creator>Da Kine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 22:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel Stein spoke about a parade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel Stein spoke about a parade.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://corcoranbrothers.com/2006/01/26/much-ado-about-stein/#comment-5479</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who said anything about a parade? I'm talking about sentiment. 

I always have good feelings for the people who &lt;em&gt;volunteer&lt;/em&gt; to serve in the Armed Forces, but they have nothing to do with the politics of war. It's those high-level decision makers that I have a problem with. Why should I lump the soldiers in with them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who said anything about a parade? I&#8217;m talking about sentiment. </p>
<p>I always have good feelings for the people who <em>volunteer</em> to serve in the Armed Forces, but they have nothing to do with the politics of war. It&#8217;s those high-level decision makers that I have a problem with. Why should I lump the soldiers in with them?</p>
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		<title>By: Da Kine</title>
		<link>http://corcoranbrothers.com/2006/01/26/much-ado-about-stein/#comment-5478</link>
		<dc:creator>Da Kine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the folks who are fighting are all volunteers.  Throwing a parade for them is an acknowledgement of the mission they have done; it is a celebration of their accomplishments. If you don't agree with what they have accomplished, then why throw a parade?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the folks who are fighting are all volunteers.  Throwing a parade for them is an acknowledgement of the mission they have done; it is a celebration of their accomplishments. If you don&#8217;t agree with what they have accomplished, then why throw a parade?</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://corcoranbrothers.com/2006/01/26/much-ado-about-stein/#comment-5477</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I couldn't disagree more. It seems perfectly natural and sensible to disagree with the (perceived) reasons behind any given conflict and still support the men and women whose job it is to perform the ins and outs of said conflict. To lock one opinion in with the other seems simple minded at best.

I second the dogs and fire for Bill Maher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I couldn&#8217;t disagree more. It seems perfectly natural and sensible to disagree with the (perceived) reasons behind any given conflict and still support the men and women whose job it is to perform the ins and outs of said conflict. To lock one opinion in with the other seems simple minded at best.</p>
<p>I second the dogs and fire for Bill Maher.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://corcoranbrothers.com/2006/01/26/much-ado-about-stein/#comment-5476</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the link: &lt;a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-stein24jan24,0,3682678.column?coll=la-util-op-ed" rel="nofollow"&gt;Joel Stein: Warriors and wusses&lt;/a&gt;

KinKine you are the smart one but isn’t democracy the right to free speech, freedom of expression, the right to assemble and all that jazz? I know that it is a government for the people by the people but I was always under the impression that the bill of rights and most of the constitution was concerned with making sure that the things needed for people to be able to actually define their ruling body were sacrosanct.

I was under the impression that the reason we continue the war in the middle east was because we wanted to safe guard that idea of democracy, bring it to the poor Iraqis. It seems kind of like a slippery slope, or perhaps it is the fact that I was awake in history class once, but it kind of familiar that trampling on the rights of people to express themselves in the name of bringing to some other people the right to express themselves is a bit hypocritical. Kind of like slave owners writing about all men being equal and all that. 

Personally I could give a shit that you bought a five dollar magnet, or whatever. Mostly I just think that the person inside the vehicle is so sheep like that major facets of their individual can be expressed by a mass produced piece of plastic. I would even go so far as to say I didn’t give a shit that you married a soldier. It was your half a heart to give away. We should make stickers that say, ‘half my mortgage is in Vegas’ or something it would move me about as much.

Most of the people who I have met volunteered to go to war. The soldiers I know train hard and want to be there where the bullets are flying. To them it is fun. Saying I support them but not the war is like saying I support the Klan member but not the Klan. Stein had every right to his opinion and to express it. I couldn’t even really say he was wrong. I do think you need to know what a hawk is as a basic intelligence meter.



bill maher is still a smarmy douche bag who should be lit on fire and eaten by dogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the link: <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-stein24jan24,0,3682678.column?coll=la-util-op-ed" rel="nofollow">Joel Stein: Warriors and wusses</a></p>
<p>KinKine you are the smart one but isn’t democracy the right to free speech, freedom of expression, the right to assemble and all that jazz? I know that it is a government for the people by the people but I was always under the impression that the bill of rights and most of the constitution was concerned with making sure that the things needed for people to be able to actually define their ruling body were sacrosanct.</p>
<p>I was under the impression that the reason we continue the war in the middle east was because we wanted to safe guard that idea of democracy, bring it to the poor Iraqis. It seems kind of like a slippery slope, or perhaps it is the fact that I was awake in history class once, but it kind of familiar that trampling on the rights of people to express themselves in the name of bringing to some other people the right to express themselves is a bit hypocritical. Kind of like slave owners writing about all men being equal and all that. </p>
<p>Personally I could give a shit that you bought a five dollar magnet, or whatever. Mostly I just think that the person inside the vehicle is so sheep like that major facets of their individual can be expressed by a mass produced piece of plastic. I would even go so far as to say I didn’t give a shit that you married a soldier. It was your half a heart to give away. We should make stickers that say, ‘half my mortgage is in Vegas’ or something it would move me about as much.</p>
<p>Most of the people who I have met volunteered to go to war. The soldiers I know train hard and want to be there where the bullets are flying. To them it is fun. Saying I support them but not the war is like saying I support the Klan member but not the Klan. Stein had every right to his opinion and to express it. I couldn’t even really say he was wrong. I do think you need to know what a hawk is as a basic intelligence meter.</p>
<p>bill maher is still a smarmy douche bag who should be lit on fire and eaten by dogs.</p>
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